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		<title>By: Chris Graves</title>
		<link>http://www.schaefersblog.com/if-you-are-not-hiring-ex-military-you-are-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-17992</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 23:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cameron

Thank you very much. I have a very extensive resume if you would like me to send you one and you would be willing to pass it on I would be very grateful. If not that&#039;s fine I thank you all the same for checking for me. It has been very difficult. since I got off active duty in 2008 I have only been able to find one job that did not work out after 7 months due to personal reasons. I have been going to college and using my gi-bill but my college makes you pay upfront for tuition and wait 3 months to get your money back, and unfortunately its not enough to go to college on. I need a job quick, but no one is hiring I cant even get a job at a gas station or Wendy&#039;s or anywhere. I am far over qualified for many jobs but civilians don&#039;t know what my resume means. Its pretty pathetic when an ex-special forces (Green Beret) cant get a minimum wage job. If anyone can help you would be doing me a huge favor. Thank you 

Chris</description>
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<p>Thank you very much. I have a very extensive resume if you would like me to send you one and you would be willing to pass it on I would be very grateful. If not that&#8217;s fine I thank you all the same for checking for me. It has been very difficult. since I got off active duty in 2008 I have only been able to find one job that did not work out after 7 months due to personal reasons. I have been going to college and using my gi-bill but my college makes you pay upfront for tuition and wait 3 months to get your money back, and unfortunately its not enough to go to college on. I need a job quick, but no one is hiring I cant even get a job at a gas station or Wendy&#8217;s or anywhere. I am far over qualified for many jobs but civilians don&#8217;t know what my resume means. Its pretty pathetic when an ex-special forces (Green Beret) cant get a minimum wage job. If anyone can help you would be doing me a huge favor. Thank you </p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Schaefer</title>
		<link>http://www.schaefersblog.com/if-you-are-not-hiring-ex-military-you-are-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-17989</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Schaefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 18:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris,

I passed your request to a few friends who live in that neck of the woods.  No promises, but hopefully something will come of it.  I&#039;ll let you know if anyone gets back to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris,</p>
<p>I passed your request to a few friends who live in that neck of the woods.  No promises, but hopefully something will come of it.  I&#8217;ll let you know if anyone gets back to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Graves</title>
		<link>http://www.schaefersblog.com/if-you-are-not-hiring-ex-military-you-are-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-17980</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 17:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an ex-military US Army Special Forces 18B (Green Beret) and I can not find a job anywhere in Birmingham if anyone can help I would be truly grateful. Thank You</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an ex-military US Army Special Forces 18B (Green Beret) and I can not find a job anywhere in Birmingham if anyone can help I would be truly grateful. Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So....do you know of anyone who is hiring? Since I got out six years ago, I have obtained my BS and MBA and work a grunt job. I used to repair electronic components on weapons. For some reason, the civilian world won&#039;t give me a chance to do anything other than menial, secretarial work. HR professionals are clueless and it makes no sense to me. My husband is also prior military and also had an electronics job. He cannot even get hired as a cashier, burger flipper or an exterminator because they seem to think that he couldn&#039;t do it. Excuse me but how can a hiring manager come to the stupid conclusion that he doesn&#039;t have the mental capacity to run a cash register or spray houses considering what he did? It makes absolutely no sense!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;.do you know of anyone who is hiring? Since I got out six years ago, I have obtained my BS and MBA and work a grunt job. I used to repair electronic components on weapons. For some reason, the civilian world won&#8217;t give me a chance to do anything other than menial, secretarial work. HR professionals are clueless and it makes no sense to me. My husband is also prior military and also had an electronics job. He cannot even get hired as a cashier, burger flipper or an exterminator because they seem to think that he couldn&#8217;t do it. Excuse me but how can a hiring manager come to the stupid conclusion that he doesn&#8217;t have the mental capacity to run a cash register or spray houses considering what he did? It makes absolutely no sense!</p>
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		<title>By: curt clements</title>
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		<dc:creator>curt clements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks and any other sites to advertise open jobs.  We are currently searching for staff with logistics background especially in the courier / integrator field (UPS , TNT, FED EX, DHL).  Openings in Afghanistan, Iraq, Dubai and others</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks and any other sites to advertise open jobs.  We are currently searching for staff with logistics background especially in the courier / integrator field (UPS , TNT, FED EX, DHL).  Openings in Afghanistan, Iraq, Dubai and others</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Quimby</title>
		<link>http://www.schaefersblog.com/if-you-are-not-hiring-ex-military-you-are-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-17379</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Quimby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Nice article!

Our company recently polled a number of sales industry discussion forums and posted the question:  “Do people with military backgrounds make good sales people?”

The question received tremendous response and as such, became the subject of a blog article written by one of my colleagues.  It was posted on various groups in LinkedIn and stirred up lots of interesting dialog.  

I thought you and or your readers might find it interesting, so I took the liberty of forwarding it along.  I hope it finds you well.

Best regards,
Charles Quimby

============================================================

If They Serve, Can They Sell?

Few would argue that military experience teaches leadership skills valuable in the corporate world. But is military experience an asset for someone who chooses a sales career?

I posted the question on several sales-focused Linkedin groups. Not surprisingly, a large majority of responders (80%) believe the ex-military make good sales people. Citing attributes such as tenacity, discipline, work ethic, and ability to work under pressure, most would not hesitate to hire these folks – assuming they possessed the right personality type.
What I found most interesting was the anecdotal comments made by those cautious of hiring ex-military:

“Are trained by the numbers. May struggle if the job requires out-of-the-box thinking.”
“Reluctant to call on senior executives. Might be a result of the rank system”
“Struggle in sales manager roles. Expect sales people to follow orders and do what they are told. People don’t behave that way in the civilian world.”

In my opinion, military experience can be a real asset for sales, especially in challenging times.  Like any other candidate, they must be fully vetted during the hiring process to make sure they possess the appropriate skills / mindset for the mission at hand.

With that said, I made one of my worst mistakes as a sales leader by hiring an ex-officer from a very elite group. Needing someone to “pioneer” a new territory, I felt he was perfect for this difficult assignment. I was so enamored with his background that I ignored red flags raised during the hiring process. As it turned out, he was severely deficient in mental toughness. How he made it through his unit’s notoriously rigorous training still remains a mystery to me……</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Nice article!</p>
<p>Our company recently polled a number of sales industry discussion forums and posted the question:  “Do people with military backgrounds make good sales people?”</p>
<p>The question received tremendous response and as such, became the subject of a blog article written by one of my colleagues.  It was posted on various groups in LinkedIn and stirred up lots of interesting dialog.  </p>
<p>I thought you and or your readers might find it interesting, so I took the liberty of forwarding it along.  I hope it finds you well.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Charles Quimby</p>
<p>============================================================</p>
<p>If They Serve, Can They Sell?</p>
<p>Few would argue that military experience teaches leadership skills valuable in the corporate world. But is military experience an asset for someone who chooses a sales career?</p>
<p>I posted the question on several sales-focused Linkedin groups. Not surprisingly, a large majority of responders (80%) believe the ex-military make good sales people. Citing attributes such as tenacity, discipline, work ethic, and ability to work under pressure, most would not hesitate to hire these folks – assuming they possessed the right personality type.<br />
What I found most interesting was the anecdotal comments made by those cautious of hiring ex-military:</p>
<p>“Are trained by the numbers. May struggle if the job requires out-of-the-box thinking.”<br />
“Reluctant to call on senior executives. Might be a result of the rank system”<br />
“Struggle in sales manager roles. Expect sales people to follow orders and do what they are told. People don’t behave that way in the civilian world.”</p>
<p>In my opinion, military experience can be a real asset for sales, especially in challenging times.  Like any other candidate, they must be fully vetted during the hiring process to make sure they possess the appropriate skills / mindset for the mission at hand.</p>
<p>With that said, I made one of my worst mistakes as a sales leader by hiring an ex-officer from a very elite group. Needing someone to “pioneer” a new territory, I felt he was perfect for this difficult assignment. I was so enamored with his background that I ignored red flags raised during the hiring process. As it turned out, he was severely deficient in mental toughness. How he made it through his unit’s notoriously rigorous training still remains a mystery to me……</p>
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		<title>By: Man Overboard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Man Overboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post.  If I ever have the privilege of being in a position to hire someone, it would be my honor to hire a veteran.  How could any position I offer ever compare to what a veteran has already accomplished?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post.  If I ever have the privilege of being in a position to hire someone, it would be my honor to hire a veteran.  How could any position I offer ever compare to what a veteran has already accomplished?</p>
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		<title>By: Urbane Lion</title>
		<link>http://www.schaefersblog.com/if-you-are-not-hiring-ex-military-you-are-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-10483</link>
		<dc:creator>Urbane Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devildogg: Not my style to self promote but an interesting thing happened at the restaurant the other day that warranted a post on my site; http://www.urbanelionsden.com/2008/09/random-acts-of.html

The lady in question even told the CWO that she was dissapointed they hadn&#039;t ordered beer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devildogg: Not my style to self promote but an interesting thing happened at the restaurant the other day that warranted a post on my site; <a href="http://www.urbanelionsden.com/2008/09/random-acts-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbanelionsden.com/2008/09/random-acts-of.html</a></p>
<p>The lady in question even told the CWO that she was dissapointed they hadn&#8217;t ordered beer!</p>
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		<title>By: Devildogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devildogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Post..A larger majority of the civilian world knows nothing of the honor, courage, and commitment the nations military puts forth to protect the freedoms of this country. I actually have been spit on upon disclosing the fact that I served in the first gulf war, being accused of &quot;killing babies&quot; and &quot;being a war mongor&quot;. Thank you...Former U.S.M.C. Sergeant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Post..A larger majority of the civilian world knows nothing of the honor, courage, and commitment the nations military puts forth to protect the freedoms of this country. I actually have been spit on upon disclosing the fact that I served in the first gulf war, being accused of &#8220;killing babies&#8221; and &#8220;being a war mongor&#8221;. Thank you&#8230;Former U.S.M.C. Sergeant</p>
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		<title>By: Urbane Lion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urbane Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be a business owner but sold it 5 years ago. I now make about 95K less a year but I find this job extremely rewarding. The Priority Hiring give priority appointment for positions in the federal government to medically released CF members. This is an actual legislation and can&#039;t be circumvented. Oddly enough we look very carefully at your transition programs to see if they can be implemented in Canada. You have very interesting programs such as Helmets to Hard Hats and an entrepreneur boot camp given by the University of Syracuse. Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be a business owner but sold it 5 years ago. I now make about 95K less a year but I find this job extremely rewarding. The Priority Hiring give priority appointment for positions in the federal government to medically released CF members. This is an actual legislation and can&#8217;t be circumvented. Oddly enough we look very carefully at your transition programs to see if they can be implemented in Canada. You have very interesting programs such as Helmets to Hard Hats and an entrepreneur boot camp given by the University of Syracuse. Keep up the good work!</p>
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